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DOCWILLEY
February 18th, 2010, 21:33
Army Investigates Alleged Attempt by Soldiers to Poison Food at Fort Jackson

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The U.S. Army is investigating allegations that soldiers were attempting to poison the food supply at Fort Jackson in South Carolina.
The ongoing probe began two months ago, Chris Grey, a spokesman for the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division, told Fox News.
The Army is taking the allegations “extremely seriously,” Grey said, but so far, "there is no credible information to support the allegations."
Five suspects, detained in December, were part of an Arabic translation program called "09 Lima" and use Arabic as their first language, two sources told Fox News. Another military source said they were Muslim. It wasn't clear whether they were still being held.
Grey would not confirm or deny the sources’ information.

DearMilSpouse
February 19th, 2010, 00:08
The Army needs to learn to stop taking every "joe" off the street. And they need to start paying attention!!!!

DOCWILLEY
February 19th, 2010, 00:16
The Army needs to learn to stop taking every "joe" off the street. And they need to start paying attention!!!!
I second that motion.Im tired of this not offend society.It offends me...

Guide Plt.2129
April 22nd, 2010, 21:31
So, where did it go, no new news, Google gets about this:

http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2010/02/18/fort-jackson-alleged-attempt-by-soldiers-to-poison-food/

Or this:

http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100328/NEWS0107/3280405/-1/RSSNEWSMAP

"And thats the news........."
Rusty

proudmom957
April 23rd, 2010, 06:39
Sighhhhhhh.......

V8403
April 23rd, 2010, 07:48
IT is Getting to the Point where the U.S. Army is not even a safe place to be , no Attention to Detail anymore !

innersanctum
April 23rd, 2010, 08:56
So do we turn away anyone that doesn't speak English as a first language? Careful with your responses and think about what you say before you answer.

I never understood how when I was in Okinawa, I was with 3rd SRIG (Surveillance, Reconnaissance, Intelligence Group) and in my SCAMP platoon, we had Chinese Citizen with no security clearance, a Vietnamese citizen with no security clearance and a South African citizen with no security clearance. Okay, I suppose I could see how you let these guys serve in some other form in an Intelligence Group with no clearance? That was 94-95. I imagine the restriction have gotten tighter lately but that one never made sense to me.

Guide Plt.2129
April 23rd, 2010, 12:35
I'm gonna stand on the principal I have always stood on. Born in America =American. Naturalized, or chose to be an American=American. By choice. Governor of California, Arnie, by choice.
When I say "chose" I mean someone who came to this country, and made the mental decision to become, worked for and is not here by sneaking in and evading citizenship.
Some one who is here "just for the beer", and then leaves when deported to come back again and again to support somebody in another country, or just live here, have children,etc without giving back=not American.
Complicated ain't it?
The term "wet back" has been applied to this type of person. If that maybe clears that part up.
I believe we have service members that need to be sworn as citizens, some headline that O'Bama was doing one of the ceremonies somewhere.
Speak english....hmmmmm...that might kinda rule out those folks that can only communicate in sign language wouldn't it. They could be faking it.
Thats a pretty broad question.
I'd like it that everyone spoke English. I read alot. And in reading I come upon things like "So and so was the 3rd son of emigrants from someplace".
Unless your 100% native American, your family tree puts it's self speaking another language before some one made the jump to English. And Native Americans didn't speak English either, but the code talkers sure saved our butt's in WW II.
I dont know how it works in certain part's of the service except that black cards are contractors/employees/something of the DoD or G-##'s services and have some level of clearance, easy one is the people that worked in the PX, or sometimes a barber or two, were hired in, like nurses at the VA (they dont pay worth a s++t, this I know), and sometimes as translators.
Did I step on my lower lip yet? Really trying to put my foot in my mouth correctly! ;)
When we were kids, it was a pretty black and white world. As I get older the black and white of it seems to have picked up some definition and bulk, and maybe just a touch of grey.......I guess for those of us who choose to see it, we are Americans by the grace of God.
And a Marine by choice,
Rusty

gunga55
April 23rd, 2010, 16:01
probably were private contractors/employee there of. The army doesn't actually have soldiers in the chow halls

innersanctum
April 23rd, 2010, 19:16
probably were private contractors/employee there of. The army doesn't actually have soldiers in the chow halls

No, the Chinese, Vietnamese and South African were all in our SCAMP (Sensor Control And Management Platoon) which was in the Intelligence part of the SRIG.

innersanctum
April 23rd, 2010, 19:20
There are a lot of Hispanic Americans that speak Spanish as a first language but are natural born Americans. Should we exclude them as well? Or what about the Americans that as Guide said, worked to become Naturalized? Do we exclude them because they speak the language of their original country.

It's a slippery slope toward bigotry if we aren't careful.

V8403
April 23rd, 2010, 20:34
http://www.usmchangout.com/portal/hangout/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by gunga55 http://www.usmchangout.com/portal/hangout/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.usmchangout.com/portal/hangout/showthread.php?p=111187#post111187)
probably were private contractors/employee there of. The army doesn't actually have soldiers in the chow halls

if and when the shooting starts in Iraq, American companies will be more critical than in any previous conflict, including the last Gulf war. That's because the Army has changed dramatically in the past decade, shedding almost one-third of its soldiers even as it has taken on missions from Kosovo to Kabul. At the same time, a government-wide push to privatize, as well as the increasing complexity of military hardware, makes the military more and more dependent on contractors. The upshot is that the Pentagon is outsourcing as many tasks as possible to enable the military, if you'll forgive the MBA-speak, to focus on its core competency: fighting. Mundane chores like KP duty and laundry detail have been outsourced at bases as far away as Afghanistan and Kuwait. Closer to home, even recruiting is being privatized. At stations in ten states, the medal-bedecked, ramrod-straight recruiter of yesteryear has been replaced by a casual-Friday-outfitted headhunter from one of two private firms. You probably have never heard of these corporations--Cubic, DynCorp, ITT, and MPRI aren't exactly household names--but the Pentagon would clearly be lost without them. "You could fight without us, but it would be difficult," says Paul Lombardi, CEO of DynCorp, which saw revenues rise 18% in 2002, to $ 2.3 billion. "Because we're so involved, it's difficult to extricate us from the process."


http://schakowsky.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2247&Itemid=17


And that is why they have so much trouble today.

gunga55
April 23rd, 2010, 20:53
DynaCorp isn't that who speed McQueen races for now

Guide Plt.2129
April 24th, 2010, 11:58
It really is, and at one time the lines were drawn in some cities, just as they were in the old black/white south. Italians stayed out of Irish and German neighborhoods, and vice versa, in some big cities. There was even black and white lines laid in NYC, Chicago, LA etc.


It's a slippery slope toward bigotry if we aren't careful.

And some still stand today, just different ethnic names.Every city has a china town, Watts, Cicero, Little Jamaica, check 'em out, but the newer version of this has changed to, more like small pockets of places, instead of whole sections of a place, at least in Portland. And then you have to factor in a group that has a concern in the gay and lesbian population, it divided there amongst the other divisions in the arena. Bigotry is the easiest one to slip into. Weather your just prone to it, or the occasional person "pushes" you into it, it's real easy to be a bigot. Archie Bunker made it so you could be, it was "cute" when he went bigot, even on a hippie.
And sometimes all it takes for a group of people is one idiot to make it terrible for another group of people.
Kinda tough being all grow'd up, ain't it?
Rusty