Bush in the positive

[innersanctum]

I was thinking about this last night and really couldn't come up with anything good so I thought I would pose this question here.

Over the last 6 years, can anyone tell me the positive things that Bush will be remembered for?

I won't buy the war in Iraq or capturing Saddam. I don't feel they are positive because war is not a positive thing and capturing Saddam was a direct result of being at war. Remember, we went to Afghanistan at first to chase down Bin Laden and then all of a sudden one day, we were going to Iraq (as a result of 9/11).

So positive things please.

[CplCJ]

I was thinking about this last night and really couldn't come up with anything good so I thought I would pose this question here.

Over the last 6 years, can anyone tell me the positive things that Bush will be remembered for?

I won't buy the war in Iraq or capturing Saddam. I don't feel they are positive because war is not a positive thing and capturing Saddam was a direct result of being at war. Remember, we went to Afghanistan at first to chase down Bin Laden and then all of a sudden one day, we were going to Iraq (as a result of 9/11).

So positive things please.

I have one! I have one! Pick me!
GW went to bat for Terri Shiavo. He tried to stop the taking out of the food tube.
Ooh, I have another one!
He prevented Al Gore from becoming President.
He actually had teh fortitude to take the fight to the ememy by starting the Global war on Terrorism. War against the idea, verses the war on the ground. I do not favor war, either. I do think sometimes fighting is a neccesary evil. Perhaps the WOT is not ours to fight, totally. But who else would have started it? Everyone else is afraid to.

[innersanctum]

Accomplishments, not attempts...

Think domestically and how your life has gotten better as a direct result of Mr. Bush being the President.

[CplCJ]

Accomplishments, not attempts...

Think domestically and how your life has gotten better as a direct result of Mr. Bush being the President.

OK, you did not say that. Personally, I do not think any president has affected my life specifically. Not Reagan, or any after him. Those are the ones I remember. Give me an example of how one changed your life, so maybe I can see better what you are looking for.

[innersanctum]

OK, you did not say that. Personally, I do not think any president has affected my life specifically. Not Reagan, or any after him. Those are the ones I remember. Give me an example of how one changed your life, so maybe I can see better what you are looking for.

As a minimum wage worker in the late 80's, Reagan was responsible for giving us (a few years earlier than before I entered the work force) the biggest Minimum Wage increase (percentage wise) in the history of minimum wage.

Bush senior sent me to Somalia to fight the skinnies.

I can't really say much for Clinton because I was in the Corps at the time and everything he did at that time was bad (at least that is how I felt at the time). However, my dad benefitted from working for 8 years straight during his Presidency without being laid off. He has been laid off from work more since Bush has been in office though as there isn't as much work out there as there used to be due to less federal funding for projects that he used to work on.

One thing that I just thought of that the current President did for me was give me $1000 back for each of my kids on taxes every year.

[CplCJ]

OK, let me give it some thought. Good thread mon capitan!

[CplCJ]

There are problems with the no kid act. It might be because of how schools interpret it, but I know some kids get to graduate that should not. Can't read, but can graduate...doesn't make sense. I know that has been an issue since schools started as an institution, but it still happens, partly because of this act. My wife teaches Elementary music, and she sees some things that should not happen. Should a kids with extreme developmental issue be in mainstream school or in a school specifically trained to handle that type need. Just one example of how that act is not good. Lisa sees it a lot. A special needs kid can and does sometimes disrupt a class for the other kids. Making noises, burps, farts, what have you. Also they most likely have a wrap around adult with them. That could also cause distractions to the other kids. Especially at the 1st and 2nd grade level. Should they be boycotted, no. I think they need special care, though.

GW has created a lot of jobs, albeit minimum wage or non high level, but jobs. Unemployement is down. A lot of people complain about being out of work, but there are jobs out there. They might not be right where you are, but they are there. Location of the job is not the Presidents fault.

[CplCJ]

Smaller classes would help, but then it would cause other issues, like fitting all the kids in. Some school districts have a lot of kids.

[jarvisa]

I am going to probably be considered one sided because I like Bush, I like him much better than Billy Boy who mind you was my Commander in Chief. I know my GIBill has went up every year. I also know that military pay like Bridget said has continued to rise showing me that we have a President that cares about our military. I also know by going to war, he enabled my nephew to be a hero and believe in something before he died. As a grunt that is all my nephew wanted was to see combat time. He had just got back from deployment in Kosivo where he saw not action and basically guarded an armory for 1 year. He honestly believed in what he was doing in Iraq and got to do what he had wanted to his whole life. While people may not agree with the war you can not argue the pride that is felt when you know a hero died doing what he wanted to do. I agree at least we didnt get Gore!!! I dont know that any President would have handled 9/11 any differently than Pres Bush.

[innersanctum]

I am going to probably be considered one sided because I like Bush, I like him much better than Billy Boy who mind you was my Commander in Chief. I know my GIBill has went up every year. I also know that military pay like Bridget said has continued to rise showing me that we have a President that cares about our military. I also know by going to war, he enabled my nephew to be a hero and believe in something before he died. As a grunt that is all my nephew wanted was to see combat time. He had just got back from deployment in Kosivo where he saw not action and basically guarded an armory for 1 year. He honestly believed in what he was doing in Iraq and got to do what he had wanted to his whole life. While people may not agree with the war you can not argue the pride that is felt when you know a hero died doing what he wanted to do. I agree at least we didnt get Gore!!! I dont know that any President would have handled 9/11 any differently than Pres Bush.
Other than Ronald Reagan (nearly 14% in 1981 or 1982), Bill Clinton gave the military the biggest pay increase in 1996. It was over nearly a 5% increase. Well, actually, the Republican controlled Congress did that but Bill didn't fight it. Military pay will always increase though because the government actually believe in cost of living raises. Not really a George Bush accomplishment to make your life better. The GI Bill has and always will go up every year. It's written in the contract when you sign up for it. It's not a George Bush accomplishment. It's been that way since it started.

As for you nephew, he was a hero without GW. The President didn't make him one because he was one in his own heart.

Bush was the right choice in 2000. Not so sure about 2004 though.

Look more into George's domestic policy. Read his platform from 2000 and see how many of the items that he promised have been fulfilled. I want to try to keep this thread as positive as possible about CiC but I also want to keep it on topic at the same time.

[jarvisa]

I am not a big Kerry fan though so Bush was in my opinion the better of the two. I think a lot of what and what does or does not get done during a Presidency has to do with Congress. I also honestly feel that in the economy after 9/11 it would have been hard for anyone to look all that great because it takes time to get thing back on track. I guess the good or the bad of it however you want to look at it is this is his last term. I had just joined in 1996 so I guess I didnt see the increase of what it was prior to my joining. I guess my thought is like CJ said how many Presidents have made a huge impact on anyone individually's life?

[innersanctum]

Ah, but he has made one big impact in my life that hasn't been positive. I am saving that for another thread.

Again focus on his domestic policy and see if he has followed through on his platform. I am not saying he has or hasn't, just trying to find the good things that we can say about GW.

As for how another President would have handled 9/11 compared to how he did, we can never know that unless something like that happens again after 2008. We, unfortunately, don't know exactly how it happened on his watch nor do we truly know the extent of his resolve after the it happened due to some of the obvious classified resolutions.

[CplCJ]

He created the Department of Homeland Security, combining and consolidating a ton of groups under one umbrella. I agree there are still issues to iron out, as there is in any huge merge of two or more business units, but the idea as a whole is good.

[CplCJ]

Not that it is so surprising, but if you do an Ask Jeeves search on GW's accomplishments, all the links are for negative accomplishments. Not neccesarily meaning he only does bad things, or just that only the complainers are taking the time to make websites about the negative things. Who knows. The only good link that I came accross was a governemt page doing a Bio.