Best Military Movie

[hankhoffman]

Vote for the best Movie.

[V8403]

Flag of Our Fathers has got to be the best movie out since F.M. J.

[nightwolf]

I agree with V8. I gotta see Letters From Iwo Jima some time...

[Trapper]

I based my vote on the movies that I saw. I saw BHD and FMJ.

[hmxsgt]

Based on what I have seen, I vote BHD

[cplcdtaylor]

The only one that Ive seen is FMJ that is listed but until I see the others I will have to go with one that is not on the list and that is Saving Private Ryan.

[BadBounty1]

None of those movies have anything on the Boot camp scenes of FMJ. Did any of you see "Heartbreak Ridge", That Clint Eastwood flick about Recon and Grenada, very inaccurate but funny as hell

[DearMilSpouse]

None of those movies have anything on the Boot camp scenes of FMJ. Did any of you see "Heartbreak Ridge", That Clint Eastwood flick about Recon and Grenada, very inaccurate but funny as hell

We have gone through 3 copies of Heartbreak Ridge at our house. It's one of mine and my husbands favorites. He took it to Iraq with him, which sucks because now it's been a year since I have watched it.

[nightwolf]

Heartbreak Ridge is a great film.

See I look at this as a case of mind over matter. We no longer mind and you no longer matter.

[hankhoffman]

"This dosn't mean that we are going to take warm showers together in the wee morning hours"

[V8403]

You dont remember the old movie Stripes, from 1981 .

[spanky3]

flags of our fathers really taught me some things I did not know about the flag raising....the battles were so realistic it was like being there. it is the top of the list in my book....

[DearMilSpouse]

You dont remember the old movie Stripes, from 1981 .

I have that movie on DVD. Watched it the other day.

[cplcdtaylor]

"This dosn't mean that we are going to take warm showers together in the wee morning hours"

You Think You are Gunny Highway now , , ,huh Hank, lol

[hankhoffman]

That is a great movie and he has some great one liners.

[Trapper]

These are all good movies. Stripes is a funny one, so is In the Army Now. Similar story line, different comedians...

[hankhoffman]

I can'y say that I am a big Pauly Sure (?) fan.

[Trapper]

I don't care much for Paulie Shore, either, I was just comparing it to Stripes.

[crownothorns45]

I have to go with Black Hawk Down because it's the only movie that has ever mad me cry.

[Trapper]

the only military movie that made you cry, or at all, ever?

[crownothorns45]

Ever at all, surprisingly enough.

Smith (http://imdb.com/name/nm0389324/): I'm sorry.
Eversmann (http://imdb.com/name/nm0001326/): You have nothing to be sorry about. You saved Twombly, you did it perfect.
Smith (http://imdb.com/name/nm0389324/): You okay Twombs?
Twombly (http://imdb.com/name/nm0362766/): Yeah, I'm okay, Jamie.
Eversmann (http://imdb.com/name/nm0001326/): See, you did what you were trained to do. You should be proud of that, be proud of that.
Smith (http://imdb.com/name/nm0389324/): Ev?
Eversmann (http://imdb.com/name/nm0001326/): Yeah.
Smith (http://imdb.com/name/nm0389324/): Do me a favor, okay? Tell my parents that I fought well today. And tell them that I... that I... that I fought hard.
Eversmann (http://imdb.com/name/nm0001326/): You're gonna tell them yourself okay, Jamie?
Smith (http://imdb.com/name/nm0389324/): Are... are the humvees here?
Eversmann (http://imdb.com/name/nm0001326/): They're coming, Jamie. They're coming. You just gotta hold on for a little longer. Can you do that?
Smith (http://imdb.com/name/nm0389324/): I can, I can. It's nothing. It's nothing

Man, that scene made me cry. When I saw this movie, I had never heard about the conflict in Somalia and that had really upset me anyway because my cousin had been in Kuwait with the Army just a few months before the Somalia conflict took place. That scene just reminded me of what could have happened to him (or any other service member).

[Trapper]

Our Innersanctum was in Somalia...

[Biggie Smallz]

I think the Best Military movie is Jarhead IMO. but its not up there so im going to have to go with Full Metal Jacket.

R/
POOLee Miller

[BeirutBill]

has anyone (god i'm getting old) remembered "the Boys in Company C" ?
R. Lee's 1st movie

[gunga55]

How about non of the above they sucked for the most part, ok Full Medal Jacket the 1st half was great, I just have a problem with the second half where no one is attached to a unit and just kind of wonder around the countryside.
How about sands of Iwo Jima

[Stivers13]

I can't choose between those four. They are all so different from each other, but still really good.

[V8403]

How about an old time one The Guns of Navarone

[gunga55]

Or wind talkers was a pretty good movie

[hankhoffman]

Gunga you did not like the Band of Brother series? It is a great movie!

[gunga55]

I only saw part of the series which was good in truth haven't seen the movie

[gunga55]

Dirty dozen was a awesome war movie

[V8403]

OK OK I might be a little old on some of these and a little new-er on one or two but they are great movies and I have seen.
the years are when they came out.

Bridge on the Kwai ( 1957)
Where Eagles Dare (1969)
Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970)
The Thin Red Line (1998)
The Great Escape (1963)

[BeirutBill]

OK OK I might be a little old on some of these and a little new-er on one or two but they are great movies and I have seen.
the years are when they came out.

Bridge on the Kwai ( 1957)
Where Eagles Dare (1969)
Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970)
The Thin Red Line (1998)
The Great Escape (1963)


I've got a great Tora! Tora! Tora! story
a couple friends and i were in a bar in Naha on Okinawa, it was a "Native" bar, all Okinawans (some old WWII vets)when we walked in.we got some funny looks as we parked our asses at a table. we ordered a round of beer noticing a TV in the corner had a movie starting. yep, you guessed it, Tora! Tora! Tora!
20+ Okinawans and 4 Marines setting in a bar watching this classic film
it was bilingual with both English and Japanese subtitles.
the "natives" would yell "Banzai!" when they would see heroism on the jap side. us Marines would give a resounding "Houuuu Rahhhhhhh" at the appropriate time.
it was a blast, we were buying beer for the house, they were buying shots of Saki for the house.
it is a long movie, and by the time the credits were rolling, we were all pretty shitfaced.
one of my many memories of Okinawa i will never forget!

[hankhoffman]

Good Stuff Bill !!

Just to clear this issue up. I was asking which of the listed movies is the best. I agree that I did not list some of the Best Movies ever made. Any movie with John Wayne ranks near the top (My Dad made with think this way).

[BeirutBill]

as much as i love Jack Webb in "The D.I.", R. Lee Ermy in "the boys in Co C" and "Full Metal Jacket" (yes, he was the Sr D.I. in both) nothing tops Sgt Striker ( John Wayne) in "Sands of Iwo Jima" hands down best Marine Movie ever!

[Trapper]

Good Stuff Bill !!

Just to clear this issue up. I was asking which of the listed movies is the best. I agree that I did not list some of the Best Movies ever made. Any movie with John Wayne ranks near the top (My Dad made with think this way).
True, once he quit using Marion...

[BeirutBill]

i see Full Metal Jacket is on cinemax tonight
just an FYI

[Trapper]

Not much skin in that movie, surprise skinemax is playing it.

[BeirutBill]

LOL, i almost typed skinemax

GMTA trapper

[gysgt22_verhelst]

Full Metal Jacket has R. Lee Ermy, and thats all you need for a good Marine corps movie!!!

[Trapper]

Full Metal Jacket has R. Lee Ermy, and thats all you need for a good Marine corps movie!!!
You got that right, Gunny, unless the Marine in the movie was Murtha.

[Silens Celer Mortalis]

I've wanted to see so many of the movies you guys are mentioning: boys of company C, heart break ridge, etc; cant find for rent, to buy, or even DL >.> <.< >.>

i say flag or our fathers, want to see letter from Iwo and Sands of Iwo too though

heres another one; platoon
I wish someone would have mad Without Remorse by Tom Clancy into a movie..boo

[gdman]

I HAVE SEEN ALL OF THESE MOVIES AND CAN NOT SAY I LIKED ONE MORE THEN THE OTHERS. THEY ALL HAVE THERE POINTS.

[gysgt22_verhelst]

he has a very good point

[SpyderGTR]

i agree with gysgt22 about full metal jacket...that movie is awesome

[ShooterDSH]

Full Metal Jacket was good!! Anyone remember The Green Beret, with John Wayne! Came out in 1968.

[Nick352]

Full Metal Jacket was good!! Anyone remember The Green Beret, with John Wayne! Came out in 1968.


I do, loved the crash in the huey. Good movie all around though.

[gunga55]

I alway enjoyed all of John Wayne's movies Green Berets was pretty good just been a real long time since I saw it.

[HMC8404]

I have yet to see Flags of our Fathers ... thanks for reminding of that one.

I suppose I still love "Paton" with George C Scott.

[usmc93]

I would have to say the Flags of our Fathers is the best Military Movie. It showed what those three flag raisers had to go through. Also Clint Eastwood is a great director and I think he even sang in the movie. Anyways two thumbs up.

[gunga55]

It showed what those three flag raisers had to go
The 3 flag raisers I seem to remember a few more than 3

[Silens Celer Mortalis]

I think it's three living flag raisers....

[boxout226]

I think it's three living flag raisers....

and it talks a little bit about the families of the ones who died on Iwo Jima.

[Dreus]

I'd have to say in my opinion if it was a complex military spread all the way through it would have to be Band of Brothers. But as an overall action flick I would have to go with BHD.:pow-mia:

[mkennedy]

I still haven't seen Full Metal Jacket ... I need to. I guess I'll switch over to Netflix and put it on the queue. I know my boys really liked it.

[lima33doc]

I still haven't seen Full Metal Jacket ... I need to. I guess I'll switch over to Netflix and put it on the queue. I know my boys really liked it.
When I was in Korea, they showed us a bunch of movies, all of them of course military movies. The place was the loudest during FMJ. No one should go through out their life without seeing that movie...lol.

[stinemates1]

I have to say full metal jacket cause it is in your face, but few good men cause it shows disipline with arms. I have not had a chance to see some of the new movie like flags of our fathers, althought I did read the book and loved it. I plan on seeing some or all the new movies

[jlel]

Flags was pretty good but it focused more on the lives of the Marines rather than the action of the war...

[boxout226]

Flags was pretty good but it focused more on the lives of the Marines rather than the action of the war...

But I liked how it flipped back and forth and wasn't just in "chronological order". You had to remember who did what and then it all tied together in the end.

[radical4t1]

I am revisiting this thread and would like to add another movie to comment on. I saw "Sgt York" over the week and thought it was an very good movie based on a true story. It is an older movie, but worth the time if you like those types.

[namvet67]

Flag of Our Fathers has got to be the best movie out since F.M. J.
Gotta go with Clint Eastwood's Flags of our Fathers. Letters from Iwo is also great just a different twist....it looked at the war from the Jap point of view. Full Metal Jacket is a favorite with me but the question was which is the best military movie.

[kill3rlo0p]

Full Metal Jacket by far- Original and un-cut

[gunga55]

Mc Cales Navy I thought was a awesome military movie.

[barr3to]

One of the first movies made about the conflict in Viet Nam, "Go tell the Spartans" Starring Burt Lancaster. Good movies about people and their beliefs....

[gunga55]

I watched Delta Farce the other day I had to say that was pretty good.

[IHateMyRoomiesCat]

Definatly Full Metal Jacket. You respect the Gunney!

[Rodriguez3226]

I vote for Flag of Are Fathers. That was a great movie.

[slugdog]

I didn't come on in time to vote, however, I would have voted for "Saving Pvt. Ryan" if I had. Seems to demonstrate the bond between brother warriors and the true nature of combat more than any other I've seen.

[Silens Celer Mortalis]

Pvt. Ryan was a good movie, I like it mainly because of the (seemingly) realistic movements and casualties

[e_d_d_i_e_]

I didn't get to vote but FMJ or Heartbreak Ridge are my fav military movies.

[Silens Celer Mortalis]

Never got to see heartbreak ridge..

[Trapper]

Its a decent movie but very Hollywoodized.

[Silens Celer Mortalis]

Ive heard everybody say its a must see, but I can never seem to find it ><

oh well, 'just a movie..

[Trapper]

Ive heard everybody say its a must see, but I can never seem to find it ><

oh well, 'just a movie..Long Beach doesn't have Blockbuster? Netflix has it.

[Silens Celer Mortalis]

well, im limited to very few resources, it has to be within biking distance; ill ask around they should have it somewere buried under some paper work or something,...

[wolfden449]

hi alittle late but black hawk down has to be the nearest thing to the truth on how we take care of our own.noone else will good movie:iwojimawolfden449

[daigs65]

I definately have to put my vote to Band of Brothers! I bought the box set and watch it over and over all the time.

[patoloco]

The Wind and the Lion....yeah, I'm old.

[gunga55]

black hawk down was a good army movie I'll say that.
No don't take any extra ammo you don't need all that why do you have the plates in your armor...... the list goes on.

[BrotherMick]

I love Heartbreak Ridge. But Flags of our Fathers is a dynamite movie. I have to admit that I liked the book better ( Flags of our Fathers ). Haven't seen Letters from Iwo Jima yet ( don't really like reading a movie ). Micky:flag-marines::rankm-sgt:

[V8403]

Although the idea of what makes a war movie is subjective, so how can it be defined, can we defined is as a movie that involves soldiers, fighting with military weapons or machinery, military strategy or events that directly lead up to or result from a military-type battle.
and by doing so we can also add the following movie to the list.

Dances With Wolves

But I also enjoy the following movies some old some not so old.

Sergeant York

Tora! Tora! Tora!

Pork Chop Hill

30 Seconds Over Tokyo

Schindler's List

[boxout226]

Although the idea of what makes a war movie is subjective, so how can it be defined, can we defined is as a movie that involves soldiers, fighting with military weapons or machinery, military strategy or events that directly lead up to or result from a military-type battle.
and by doing so we can also add the following movie to the list.
Dances With Wolves

But I also enjoy the following movies some old some not so old.

Sergeant York

Tora! Tora! Tora!

Pork Chop Hill

30 Seconds Over Tokyo

Schindler's List



If we watched Schindler's list and wrote a pharagraph on what it was about we got extra credit for history last year. It turned out to be a pretty good movie. And Dances with Wolves is a classic. I've never seen the others though.

[packy46]

Full Metal Jacket........

[GinaKLaughlin]

Full Metal Jacket or Saving Private Ryan, I love them both!!

[usmc_hopeful4]

Saving Private ryan wasn't there? It is an awsome movie. All the rest is just as good.

[BeirutBill]

every time i hear "saving private ryan" i think of a porno i heard of
"Saving Ryan's Privates" LOL
yeah, i know kinda also reminds me of John Wayne Bobbitt!

[USMC4EVR11]

Saving pirate ryan and full metal jacket has my vote for best millitary movies....but i herd that they are coming out with a new millitary movie and its aspose 2 be about the marines!! im so excited. im not sure wat its called yet but i will let u guys kno when i find out.
-Jenna Johnson

[USMC4EVR11]

wow, ok i messed up that last post i made, i ment saving private ryan...not saying pirate ryan.

[gunga55]

Arrr shiver me timbers you scurvy landlubber

[ChrisAlberding]

It is a tie between Flags of our Fathers and Full Metal Jacket....they are tow very different movies, but both incredible.

[XJUSTICEX]

Oh man, I think I love them all. Others that are good>
Saving Private Ryan
Platoon
But I love Flags of Our Fathers and Letter os Iwo Jima is and excelent movie. It gives us a diffrent perspective of what they might have been thinking and how they fought in that war!!!!!

[7YearsLater]

Hubby says Heartbreak Ridge and Full Metal Jacket, then started grunting. LOL. I am just finishing Flags of Our Fathers, the book, and it is awesome. Much better than the movie, but then I AM a geek, so.....

[CPLMcCarthyCombatVet]

I would have to say FMJ, since I dont see many other choices up there.
However, Warriors, lets get a little Old Corps, and go with
Seige of Fire Base Gloria...
That was an old school good war movie.
I am also partial to The Thin Red Line and Apocalypse Now

[gunner98p]

I'd have to say Flags of our fathers was an incredible movie, but full metal jacket is still a classic.

[ChrisAlberding]

FMJ is what I always reference when someone asks how Marine Corp Boot Camps was like....best representation ever. Makes it #1 in my book

[XJUSTICEX]

I also though HEAR BREAK RIDGE was a good movie, but I have heard that the Marine Corps. didn't like that movie for some reason anyone know why?

[govern4]

[quote=XJUSTICEX;57220]I also though HEAR BREAK RIDGE was a good movie, but I have heard that the Marine Corps. didn't like that movie for some reason anyone know why?[/quote
Army was at heart break ridge.no Marines engaged.
JR GOVERN

[govern4]

FMJ is what I always reference when someone asks how Marine Corp Boot Camps was like....best representation ever. Makes it #1 in my book
I agree ,but I laughted all through the boot camp parts.
it was like I knew all of those guys

[mjordan]

For the best depiction of actual MCRD life...Full Metal Jacket!!!

[mjordan]

The "Jelly Doughnut" scene was classic. R.Lee Ermey was perfect.

[XJUSTICEX]

[quote=XJUSTICEX;57220]I also though HEAR BREAK RIDGE was a good movie, but I have heard that the Marine Corps. didn't like that movie for some reason anyone know why?[/quote
Army was at heart break ridge.no Marines engaged.
JR GOVERN

That would be the reason on hwy the Marines didn't like that movie huh!

[jarhead1]

I would have to agree and say FMJ but, i really liked the movie jarhead the book was even better.When i spoke with my lt. on the fire dept. who is 13 years recon, now retired.He says that the movie jarhead had no real depiction of usmc life.

[Silens Celer Mortalis]

A movie that I like is Saving Private Ryan

-At the same time I absolutely hate it because of Upham >.<
-We were soldiers is a good one too

[PooleeRogers08]

What about Gomer Pyle, USMC?!!?!?!? Nobody thought of that?


If you did, I'm sorry. I didn't feel like looking through ten pages of this movie that movie.

[grumpygy]

Well I voted Band of Brothers even if I have not seen them all yet. Have it coming in NetFlix.

But if "We Were soldiers once and young" that would be my hands down Favorite. A little too real even. Love the way those at home are trseated and how things changed during that time period. Again a very good movie.

[V8403]

Full Metal Jacket (1987)

Private Joker, are you trying to offend me ?

the best war movie of the past 20 years, if not all time, and it didn’t even crack the Top 400 ballot. Words fail to express how wrong that is.
“Full Metal Jacket,” Which was directed by Stanley Kubrick and starring Matthew Modine, Vincent D’Onofrio and R. Lee Ermey (in the role that made him a star), could be considered two great war movies for the price of one. The first half of the film shows Marine recruits at boot camp, preparing for Vietnam, while the second half deals with the violence and uncertainty of that war.

Perhaps it was the vulgarity and brutality of the film that made it such a tough sell for the voters. Or the vulgarity. Maybe the racism. Did I mention the vulgarity? This film is
Not for the faint of heart, “Full Metal Jacket” is about as real as it comes without signing a contract. Even today, many of the themes still ring true.

[cevmad]

I would have to go with Heartbreak Ridge as well. Then Full Metal Jacket.

[BeirutBill]

i woke up early this morning, finished off a pot of lifer juice, got the wife off to work then turned on the idiot box and started channel surfing.
AMC had " " on. i hate commercials on AMC so i broke out my Heartbreak Ridge DVD. man that movie brings back memory's, both good and bad.
great movie from my era.I'm an 80's era Marine.
this movie is in my top 5 of all time, but i still have to go with "Boys in Company C" and Full Metal Jacket" as my top 2.

hope everyone had a great Christmas, and i wish you all a better New Year than 2007

Semper Fi Brothers & Sisters

[chrissybear77]

I personaly Loved "Heartbreak Ridge" Great Movie I loved the movie I must of seen that 100 times.

[SSGTJack]

FYI: According to The American Legion Magazine fo October 2007 the TOP 10 movies selected by Vets are:

Saving Private Ryan, 1998
To Hell and Back, 1955
The Longest Day, 1962
Band of Brothers, 2001
Battleground, 1949
A Walk in the Sun, 1945
We Were Soldiers, 2002
Sands of Iwo Jima, 1949
Twelve O'Clock High, 1949
The Story of GI Joe, 1945

Jack

[devildog6000]

i think the best military movie is by far full medal jacket.

[grumpygy]

Just watched Full Metal Jacket again. Still say We were Soldiers once and young. Wins hands down

[BozScoggs]

I had just read "The Great Santinin" by Pat Conroy when the movie was beginning filming. I had the chance to meet Robert Duval. Good Guy, Great Actor.

So...
The Great Santini
Full Metal Jacket
We Were Soldiers Once, And Young (I met the General 4 years ago. Amazing man, even got his autograph)
Sands of Iwo Jima
Flags of Our Fathers
Letters from Iwo Jima
Saving Private Ryan
Strategic Air Command
Devil Dogs of the Air (1934, James Cagney, and V0-8M, progenitor of VMS-2, VMSB-231, VMBF-231, VMTB-231, VMF-231, and finally VMA-231)


That's my top 9.

[Mustang06]

My favorite military movies are:

Letters From Iwo Jima 2007 (Just saw it great movie!!!)
Saving Private Ryan
Heartbreak Ridge
Flag of Our Fathers
Band of Brothers
Sands of Iwo Jima
Sniper
The War (PBS Series by Ken Burns) Great!!!

[ja_swanson]

wat about hearthbreak ridge???

[gunga55]

The great santini was an awesome movie. Liked the pea soup part.

[Sgtwardog72]

Flags of Our Fathers is a great movie..

[poghmahone]

Really? I though Clint veered pretty far off course from the book, plus it was boring in some spots. Thought Clint ++++ed up the directing part pretty good. The book was great. In a 1 to 10 poll, I would give it a 10; the movie, using the same scale, was a 4 at most.

But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[gunga55]

The book is always better than the movie. Except for maybe The Stand by Stephen King that book was the longest most boring book I have ever read. It made russian authors books look and be exciting.

[poghmahone]

I think the "Code Talkers" could have been a better movie had they used variations of sounds (perhaps like the real sounds of gunfire) for all of the different automatic weapons they used all full autos sounded EXACTLY alike, which is pure BS; otherwise, it was a great story and movie.

[poghmahone]

I think the first part -- YES; the second part pure fantasy on the part of the director.

[gunga55]

I think the first part -- YES; the second part pure fantasy on the part of the director.
What movie are you talking about here Pogh I am assuming full metal jacket but not entirely sure.

[Sadistic_Tranquility514]

I would say "Saving Private Ryan" was a superb movie...outstanding...
Also another one is "Black Hawk Down"...
"Letters from Iwo Jima" was great too...

[PooleeRogers08]

Was it just me, or did Flags of our Fathers seem very... derogatory?

It trampled on the names of the men who raised the flag a few times over, and made the Marines look like... poopheads for lack of a better word.

Letters from Iwo did the same thing. I would have shot the two prisoners as well, but there's no need to add that in the movie. It gives the Corps a bad rep. Now everyone that sees that movie will think we are heartless and cruel. (at least circa 1944)

[Trapper]

Was it just me, or did Flags of our Fathers seem very... derogatory?

It trampled on the names of the men who raised the flag a few times over, and made the Marines look like... poopheads for lack of a better word.

Letters from Iwo did the same thing. I would have shot the two prisoners as well, but there's no need to add that in the movie. It gives the Corps a bad rep. Now everyone that sees that movie will think we are heartless and cruel. (at least circa 1944)
Whether it paints a negative picture of Marine or not, it does happen n war, right? Didn't the Marines have an investigation of those guys shooting a wounded insurgent in a building? It happens. Those boots on the ground felt they were in danger, and did what they had to do. Didn't Haditha happen? So why can't it happen in the movies? Not derogatory, just a fact of war that most are not happy with.

[gunga55]

WWII in the pacific was a total no holds barred no quarter asked or given war. It was a blood bath. Every one talks about D-Day but that type of combat in the Pacific was the norm. It is my opinion that if the Marines were not taking care of the Pacific (ok the Department of the Navy) much of the Pacific would still belong to Japan. I base that on the fact that every campaign that the Army took part of in the Pacific on the Army end it did not turn out so well and frankly they could not do what needed to be done. Before any one brings up New Guinea that wasn't the Army's doing but more the natives and the environment taking out the Japs in large numbers, not to mention !st Mar Div kicking some butt also.

[PooleeRogers08]

With Flags of Our Father's I meant the part about the Marine being a drunk, and getting in fights with MP's and whatnot.. If it's the truth I'd understand more, but it's not necessary to convey the message. Why do they see the throw a national hero under the train?

[lima33doc]

With Flags of Our Father's I meant the part about the Marine being a drunk, and getting in fights with MP's and whatnot.. If it's the truth I'd understand more, but it's not necessary to convey the message. Why do they see the throw a national hero under the train?
Marines and Sailors actually used to have a pretty bad rep (Cuss like a Sailor or Fight like a Marine). If Mr. Eastwood was going for any historical truth in his film, that may have been a true incident.

[Trapper]

With Flags of Our Father's I meant the part about the Marine being a drunk, and getting in fights with MP's and whatnot.. If it's the truth I'd understand more, but it's not necessary to convey the message. Why do they see the throw a national hero under the train?It does not matter, Rogers, everyone already thinks that about the military and esp. the Marines. It did not hurt our image at all.

[BrotherMick]

With Flags of Our Father's I meant the part about the Marine being a drunk, and getting in fights with MP's and whatnot.. If it's the truth I'd understand more, but it's not necessary to convey the message. Why do they see the throw a national hero under the train?
The whole point of the movie was the truth of it. Ira Hayes ( I believe that was his name ), did become a drunk and died of alcoholism with his face in the dirt. The truth does not change the facts of the battle. It just enhances it. The six men that raised the flag were heroes in the eyes of the American public, but only Rene Gagnon tried to cash in on that. The other two of the three that got off the Island tried to deny the hero aspect. Part of Hayes problem was the fame that was pushed upon him. He finally convinced the Marines to send him back into combat,but still continued drinking when he got out. He just couldn't escape the demons. Sometimes, life does suck. Micky:flag-marines::rankm-sgt:

[PooleeRogers08]

:( ... You know how a 3 year old looks at his dad, and thinks he is perfect, no matter what he does wrong? I guess that's just how I feel about the Corps. She's perfect in my eyes

The Corps is my daddy...

[gunga55]

She's perfect in my eyes

The Corps is my daddy...
A bit of conflicting statement there Rogers

[lima33doc]

A bit of conflicting statement there Rogers
To tie it in with another thread... Not if you go by the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy...lmao

[PooleeRogers08]

I thought of that as soon as I posted it.. lol. But I don't think I could have used 'he' and it still been grammatically correct... Oh well.

[Hocker]

I wanna here you say that when you get assigned to a grunt unit in the fleet , and when they strap that 81mm motar base plate to yo ass in a 25 miler and call BOOT ASS all way up and down the hill LMAO!!! and drink all your water from your canteens

[gunga55]

lol Never had to do that but the 52 lb traversing unit for the TOW is not fun to hump (down Renee bad girl) as there is no way to carry it comfortably. Its on a strap and sits on your leg and every step bam