Don Imus' comments about the Rutgers' women's basketball team

[V8403]

Did Don Imus' comments about the Rutgers' women's basketball team warrant his termination from both MSNBC and CBS?

[Trapper]

I feel what he said could have been taken as sexist, if anything, but not racist. I also think that his termination was not from what he said, or even how he said it, but because the sponsors pulled out. The station stood to lose tons of cash, so they got rid of him. It was business.

[hmxsgt]

Watch waht plays out, from this I think we are going to see some more issues raised. Hip Hop will be attacked for the lyrics, and guess who is going to come out trying to protect it? Of course Rev. Al and Jesse. Free speech as we know it is coming to an end.

[hmxsgt]

I feel what he said could have been taken as sexist, if anything, but not racist. I also think that his termination was not from what he said, or even how he said it, but because the sponsors pulled out. The station stood to lose tons of cash, so they got rid of him. It was business.

And if the white community had any balls we'd boycott those sponsers

[Trapper]

And if the white community had any balls we'd boycott those sponsers
As if that will EVER happen.

[hmxsgt]

As if that will EVER happen.

"IF" the young black community that thinks this is bullshit as well, which many do, they'd also boycott. But yes CJ your right it won't happen because we are a nation of pussies afraid to upset

[V8403]

Just think he just might have a job right along side of H.S. satellite radio

[Trapper]

I heard a couple stations in PGH are already looking at him...

[hankhoffman]

I said no.

If you din't like what someone says then don't listen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hmxsgt]

Just think he just might have a job right along side of H.S. satellite radio

At some point if the sirruis xm deal goes through, I believe he will be along side Opie and Anthony on XM before that tho. They are currently being credited for the increase in his telethon monies along with the outrage of his fans. This Man has done more for this country then these P.O.S. Revs

[lyricalnik@hotmail.com]

As a black woman I thought it was rude and insensitive, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Before the media circus I had barely heard of him and after all this settles down I probably wouldn't think of him again. I think he owes an apology to the basketball team. I agree if you don't like it don't listen. There are more important things we could be talking about.

[hmxsgt]

As a black woman I thought it was rude and insensitive, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Before the media circus I had barely heard of him and after all this settles down I probably wouldn't think of him again. I think he owes an apology to the basketball team. I agree if you don't like it don't listen. There are more important things we could be talking about.

I'm glad to have you here. Now knowing your a black women, and I understanding that yes it was rude and insensitive, But was it racial? And if it was please explain what part of it is Racist.

Also what is your feeling on the Reverends Al and Jesse?

[Trapper]

As a black woman I thought it was rude and insensitive, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Before the media circus I had barely heard of him and after all this settles down I probably wouldn't think of him again. I think he owes an apology to the basketball team. I agree if you don't like it don't listen. There are more important things we could be talking about.
Thanks for your input Nik. I too would like to know your feelings. Please share.

[innersanctum]

Just think he just might have a job right along side of H.S. satellite radio

He will never work at Sirius as long as Howard Stern is there. That doesn't rule out XM but if the merger goes through they would let him go anyway.

[innersanctum]

Interesting that you bring up how the black community might react. I think they are already reacting and in a way that wasn't anticipated. This was on the front page of the Chicago Sun-Times (http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/340375,CST-NWS-Deep13.article).

[Trapper]

I am free speach, but also do think that people in the public eye should and do have a responsibility to be friendly...ie, no racial or sexist comments. There must be accountability. Do I think what was said was racist? I am not seeing that. I can see it being sexist, although I personally have been called Big Intelligent Tall Crazy and Honest. I have also been called Ho. So it does not have to be sexist, either, being that I am male...Nappy does not neccesarily mean black, as anyone can have nappy hair. Nappy is a description meaning in disarray. Wild hair. Phylis Diller has nappy hair. She is about as white as it gets. It is no different than saying ashy skin. It just means dry skin. I get that. So I reiterate on Tom's question, where is the racism in Imus' comment?

[V8403]

So I reiterate on Tom's question, where is the racism in Imus' comment?

It probably had to do with the fact , that he knew Rutgers' Women were black, and he directed the comment toward them and only them. which is wrong,
I know a lot of people and comics use words and phrases and get away with it, but lots of them are now going to have to watch what they say.

[vmalcolm]

well my opinion on that is okay it was a white man saying it but what about the the rappers out there that say "cracker, whitey, or redneck" you know NO ONE is making a big deal over that.. and thats bull crap... since there making a big deal over this that all of us caucasians should raise hell on that:bsflag:

[hmxsgt]

well my opinion on that is okay it was a white man saying it but what about the the rappers out there that say "cracker, whitey, or redneck" you know NO ONE is making a big deal over that.. and thats bull crap... since there making a big deal over this that all of us caucasians should raise hell on that:bsflag:
I think you may start seeing that. I know I was listening to Shaun Hannity on Opie and Anthony, and they all were talking about calling a truce on stunts that they pull on other radio shows and banding together and fighting stuff like this. The problem is the "Black Leaders" will saythat they are calling out these rappers, but I don't see it blown up as big as the Imus thing got, and I certainly don't see them threatening protests against the record labels to drop the racist f's

[kmarier2001]

In my opinion, Rev Al is not about the civil rights and liberties of his fellow black men and women, he is about himself. He finds any reason whatsoever to get himself into the spotlight.
I think the comments that Imus made were rude and they were wrong, but at least he had the common sense to apologize. Wonder where Rev Al's apologies are to all the accusations he has made, that have turned out to be wrong???

[gunga55]

the whole part of the conversation that got Imus in trouble was talking about the team and how they looked like a bunch of thugs. Yes he carried way to far, and yes the racial statement came from some where in his heart, but they do look like thugs and they are knappy headed as in unkept non combed hair and look like a women prison basketball team. I would rather some one make fun of my racial heritage than to be called a ho. ok maybe if I ever got paid for it I might not. I know that I am sounding like an old man but the whole I just got out of bed look is very unbecoming and shows a complete lack of pride. Rutger should be ashamed to allow their athletic teams to go out in public looking like thugs, but instead of fixing that lets focus on some idiot running off at the mouth.

SHAME SHAME SHAME

[innersanctum]

I am free speach, but also do think that people in the public eye should and do have a responsibility to be friendly...ie, no racial or sexist comments. There must be accountability. Do I think what was said was racist? I am not seeing that. I can see it being sexist, although I personally have been called Big Intelligent Tall Crazy and Honest. I have also been called Ho. So it does not have to be sexist, either, being that I am male...Nappy does not neccesarily mean black, as anyone can have nappy hair. Nappy is a description meaning in disarray. Wild hair. Phylis Diller has nappy hair. She is about as white as it gets. It is no different than saying ashy skin. It just means dry skin. I get that. So I reiterate on Tom's question, where is the racism in Imus' comment?

That had to be intentional but if it wasn't, it is funny that you were called a +++++ and didn't know it.

[innersanctum]

well my opinion on that is okay it was a white man saying it but what about the the rappers out there that say "cracker, whitey, or redneck" you know NO ONE is making a big deal over that.. and thats bull crap... since there making a big deal over this that all of us caucasians should raise hell on that

Except that words are just words. I have been called names but I am an adult and quite honestly, I don't think because one group of people do things one way that it makes it right if another wanted to do the same.

[vmalcolm]

you know what pops in my head when i think of this issue is sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gunga55]

His statement wasn't any worse than Geico and there berating cavemen.

[Trapper]

That had to be intentional but if it wasn't, it is funny that you were called a +++++ and didn't know it.
I was called that in high school, a largely dark green school. It was like an extra slap in the face for a man to be called that.

[Trapper]

Supposedly the Team has accepted Don's apology, but that does not give him his job back. I remember when saying you are sorry meant something. It used to absolve you from just about anything.

[hmxsgt]

Supposedly the Team has accepted Don's apology, but that does not give him his job back. I remember when saying you are sorry meant something. It used to absolve you from just about anything.


With those to racists F's an apology means nothing

[lyricalnik@hotmail.com]

It's never ok when someone makes a derogatory statement about another group of people. The rappers shouldn't do it nor should anyone else. One thing i've always told my kids is that you can not control what other people say. Everyone has a right to say whatever they want. How we choose to react is on us. As wrong as his statement was it was his right to say it. If his sponsors want to pullout thats their right as well.

Now to answer the question if it was racist....Yes! If that was a team of white or asian girls he wouldn't have said it. Sure nappy can apply to anyone as can N*****, but who is it mostly directed to?? Nappy is not a bad word. I would have nappy hair is i didnt groom myself (perm):) . But this was a public figure talking about girls who had just done the impossible, ...Beat Duke and made it to the finals. If that was the only way he could think to describe them he should have just kept his mouth shut. I still don't understand why its such a big deal, its not like it has never happened before. So whats the big deal now after 40 years.

[Trapper]

It's never ok when someone makes a derogatory statement about another group of people. The rappers shouldn't do it nor should anyone else. One thing i've always told my kids is that you can not control what other people say. Everyone has a right to say whatever they want. How we choose to react is on us. As wrong as his statement was it was his right to say it. If his sponsors want to pullout thats their right as well.

Now to answer the question if it was racist....Yes! If that was a team of white or asian girls he wouldn't have said it. Sure nappy can apply to anyone as can N*****, but who is it mostly directed to?? Nappy is not a bad word. I would have nappy hair is i didnt groom myself (perm):) . But this was a public figure talking about girls who had just done the impossible, ...Beat Duke and made it to the finals. If that was the only way he could think to describe them he should have just kept his mouth shut. I still don't understand why its such a big deal, its not like it has never happened before. So whats the big deal now after 40 years.
Thanks, Nik. Very good insight. I agree. he should not have said it being a public figure. That goes with the territory. I also agree thay the sponsors had the right to pull out. I grew up in a partly black neighborhood, about 60-40 w/b. I heard the term nappy all the time, so did not really associate it more with one side or the other. Who makes it mostly towards blacks? I am just asking, not trying to be difficult. I honestly do not know the answer to that one.

[hmxsgt]

It's never ok when someone makes a derogatory statement about another group of people. The rappers shouldn't do it nor should anyone else. One thing i've always told my kids is that you can not control what other people say. Everyone has a right to say whatever they want. How we choose to react is on us. As wrong as his statement was it was his right to say it. If his sponsors want to pullout thats their right as well.

Now to answer the question if it was racist....Yes! If that was a team of white or asian girls he wouldn't have said it. Sure nappy can apply to anyone as can N*****, but who is it mostly directed to?? Nappy is not a bad word. I would have nappy hair is i didnt groom myself (perm):) . But this was a public figure talking about girls who had just done the impossible, ...Beat Duke and made it to the finals. If that was the only way he could think to describe them he should have just kept his mouth shut. I still don't understand why its such a big deal, its not like it has never happened before. So whats the big deal now after 40 years.

I think most of us would agree that yes it was a derogatory remark. I myself think it's very questionable if it's racist. You think so, and I respect that. If thou we start taking away words that can be racist towards everyone, we will end up with a small dictionary. And how will the community be kept informed of words being added to the list, as every day it seems there is a "NEW" word that can't be said.

If you have ever listened to Imus (I know maybe you haven't) you would know that he did not say this with the intent that these girls were whores. I call my buddy an asshole all the time. He does not resemble, nor smell like that (HAHAHA) at all, or is he really an asshole. He received a punishment of two weeks suspension without pay I think that was plenty for the context of the statement.

Now everyone is talking about well the rappers shouldn't say these things either. First like you say they have the right, and they do. Personally I don't think that they should be censored, BUT if Sharpton and Jackson are gonna play this game, then the NEED to be censored as well. This double standard between the Blacks and the Whites needs to stop. Sharpton in 1 week got Imus fired, for two years he's been "Calling for" those lyrics to be stopped. Two years, why is he so quick to jump on the white man? My question is why is the white man so quick to jump for him? If Sharpton was so much against this speech from a black person then he'd have G-unit, Fifty cent, Ludacris etc.... off of record labels. This is BS. It's all about money for him. I'm sorry he's one of the biggest Racists in the Country if not the Biggest

[BeirutBill]

I've been watching Alex Hailey's "Roots" on TV, i hadn't seen it since it aired back in 1977.
"Nappyheaded Ho's" seems like such a waste of time, it should have never been an issue.
like the "Brothers" using the N-word
I'm not afraid to say it, i went to a 97 % black high school, but my brother in law (a white guy) is the biggest Nigger I've ever known, it's a mentality, not a race or color!

everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, even Don Imus.

what happened to freedom of speech?

Bigoted Bill (i hate everyone! )

[hmxsgt]

I've been watching Alex Hailey's "Roots" on TV, i hadn't seen it since it aired back in 1977.
"Nappyheaded Ho's" seems like such a waste of time, it should have never been an issue.
like the "Brothers" using the N-word
I'm not afraid to say it, i went to a 97 % black high school, but my brother in law (a white guy) is the biggest Nigger I've ever known, it's a mentality, not a race or color!

everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, even Don Imus.

what happened to freedom of speech?

Bigoted Bill (i hate everyone! )

Amen, and we hate you back.

I hate having to change my F'ng letters green so I don't upset someone.

[BeirutBill]

i should have said "i hate all non Marines" but thats not true either
just making a point

[BeirutBill]

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[hmxsgt]

The issue I have is Al Sharpton has been recorded, calling his own people niggers, and whores, he has been on tape saying Greek Homo's. Bla bla bla. Then he does this. I'm just sick of hearing the ass spout his BS especially when he does the same exact shit. It's pure BS

[innersanctum]

I am sticking to my guns on this one. Just because Sharpton says it and is wrong when he does it, doesn't mean that Imus, me or anyone else is excused for doing the same. Free speech does equal hate speech a times and that is unfortunate. You certainly can say whatever you want about anyone you want (as long as it's true and not slanderous) because of our Constitutional protections.

Our rights are being trampled every day (Illegal Search and Seizure for one) so it shouldn't surprise anyone that free speech is being trampled on now. It was inevitable that once our rights began to be taken from us (in one amendment), the other amendments weren't far behind. I hope it doesn't go too far but you never know. After yesterday's events at Va Tech, we might lose our right to bear arms....after all, it would be in the name of National Security.

We can't walk all over one of our Bill of Rights and not expect others to suffer as well. We can't pick and choose which rights we are willing to give up in the name of terrorist actions. It is the responsibility of our government to protect us without making the Constitution worthless. Ben Franklin said it best, "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (and that was in 1755).

[hmxsgt]

I am sticking to my guns on this one. Just because Sharpton says it and is wrong when he does it, doesn't mean that Imus, me or anyone else is excused for doing the same. Free speech does equal hate speech a times and that is unfortunate. You certainly can say whatever you want about anyone you want (as long as it's true and not slanderous) because of our Constitutional protections.

Our rights are being trampled every day (Illegal Search and Seizure for one) so it shouldn't surprise anyone that free speech is being trampled on now. It was inevitable that once our rights began to be taken from us (in one amendment), the other amendments weren't far behind. I hope it doesn't go too far but you never know. After yesterday's events at Va Tech, we might lose our right to bear arms....after all, it would be in the name of National Security.

We can't walk all over one of our Bill of Rights and not expect others to suffer as well. We can't pick and choose which rights we are willing to give up in the name of terrorist actions. It is the responsibility of our government to protect us without making the Constitution worthless. Ben Franklin said it best, "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." (and that was in 1755).

Sanctum I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. But why is Imus held to a different set of standards then Al Sharpton. I don't care what your saying about it's not right. We know that. The point is there are double standards. Thats the point. Again who cares what you think, because, there is a double standard. Whites and Blacks should have the same consequence when something is said (and I know thats what your saying) but for real it's not the case.

I'm not for cenorship, I don't think we need to put out a list of words that can't be said, I don't think thats good, but the hypocrisy of this whole Imus thing is that Sharpton has said far worse things, both of his own race and of other races, and not once has he been punished, but the we bend over for this jack ass. Why are we afraid of him?

If you ban things that cannot be said or done, then the world will be a very sad and boring place. I see and hear things everyday that could offend someone. This country needs to grow some thicker skin and deal with some real issues. Sharpton complains that there are more Blacks in Prison then in College. Tell me thats because Imus called some basketball players ho's. No it's because, they get wrapped up in these gangs and spend more time concerned with illegal shit then concentrating on making something of themselves. I'm sorry we are all responsible for ourselves. I shouldn't be held accountable because the black man doesn't go to college. We all have our own stories, our own demons that we have to overcome, some more then others, some bigger then others. There are plenty of succes stories of the black community. There are black men and women that have thier own houses, pay thier bills, take care of thier kids. Why can't more of them do it. 1 reason and 1 reason only. They choose not to. It's not because someone called someone a nigger, or because of Rap lyrics or because Micheal Richards said some horrible shit. These Black men who go to jail instead of college, choose to take the route, JUST like there White counterparts. Black people whether anyone wants to admit it or not have more of an oppurtunity to succeed, because the white man has been made to feel quilty for things alot of us have never been directly related to. It's the Black people that choose not to do something about it. We've all had our feelings hurt, I'm sure we've all been called something that was derogatory, but it doesn't look like it has ever stopped any one of us. They are words, it's not the end of the world. But my point is IF your going to call out a 66 year old white man for saying "nappy headed ho's" then you also need to call out and take the same punishment to the 25 year old black rapper that uses Nigger, ho, +++++es, and many more derogatory and sexist remarks in almost all of his songs. You feel that way, I feel that way, NOW we need to make Al Sharpton DO IT.

[innersanctum]

Sanctum I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. But why is Imus held to a different set of standards then Al Sharpton. I don't care what your saying about it's not right. We know that. The point is there are double standards. Thats the point. Again who cares what you think, because, there is a double standard. Whites and Blacks should have the same consequence when something is said (and I know thats what your saying) but for real it's not the case.

I'm not for cenorship, I don't think we need to put out a list of words that can't be said, I don't think thats good, but the hypocrisy of this whole Imus thing is that Sharpton has said far worse things, both of his own race and of other races, and not once has he been punished, but the we bend over for this jack ass. Why are we afraid of him?

If you ban things that cannot be said or done, then the world will be a very sad and boring place. I see and hear things everyday that could offend someone. This country needs to grow some thicker skin and deal with some real issues. Sharpton complains that there are more Blacks in Prison then in College. Tell me thats because Imus called some basketball players ho's. No it's because, they get wrapped up in these gangs and spend more time concerned with illegal shit then concentrating on making something of themselves. I'm sorry we are all responsible for ourselves. I shouldn't be held accountable because the black man doesn't go to college. We all have our own stories, our own demons that we have to overcome, some more then others, some bigger then others. There are plenty of succes stories of the black community. There are black men and women that have thier own houses, pay thier bills, take care of thier kids. Why can't more of them do it. 1 reason and 1 reason only. They choose not to. It's not because someone called someone a nigger, or because of Rap lyrics or because Micheal Richards said some horrible shit. These Black men who go to jail instead of college, choose to take the route, JUST like there White counterparts. Black people whether anyone wants to admit it or not have more of an oppurtunity to succeed, because the white man has been made to feel quilty for things alot of us have never been directly related to. It's the Black people that choose not to do something about it. We've all had our feelings hurt, I'm sure we've all been called something that was derogatory, but it doesn't look like it has ever stopped any one of us. They are words, it's not the end of the world. But my point is IF your going to call out a 66 year old white man for saying "nappy headed ho's" then you also need to call out and take the same punishment to the 25 year old black rapper that uses Nigger, ho, +++++es, and many more derogatory and sexist remarks in almost all of his songs. You feel that way, I feel that way, NOW we need to make Al Sharpton DO IT.

The rappers are beginning to be held to a higher standard as are comics after this incident.

I don't like the hypocrisies that have resulted from this incident. However, I do believe that Al Shapton is held to those standards. The only problem really is that no one really cares what he has to say. He has invoked racism as long as he has been around doing his time in the political and religious circuits. His rantings make him out to be a loon instead of a respected leader. People go to him for forgiveness from the black community because who else can they get their public apology out to where it is validated by a black "leader." Jesse "I smeared King's blood on me" Jackson? Sharpton also happens to live in NYC which is also the HQ for a lot of the shows that interview him so he is a convenient source for them, credible or not.

Why Shapton has no credibility:

1987: Sharpton spreads the incendiary Tawana Brawley hoax, insisting heatedly that a 15-year-old black girl was abducted, raped, and smeared with feces by a group of white men. He singles out Steve Pagones, a young prosecutor. Pagones is wholly innocent -- the crime never occurred -- but Sharpton taunts him: "If we're lying, sue us, so we can . . . prove you did it." Pagones does sue, and eventually wins a $345,000 verdict for defamation. To this day, Sharpton refuses to recant his unspeakable slander or to apologize for his role in the odious affair.

1991: A Hasidic Jewish driver in Brooklyn's Crown Heights section accidentally kills Gavin Cato, a 7-year-old black child, and antisemitic riots erupt. Sharpton races to pour gasoline on the fire. At Gavin's funeral he rails against the "diamond merchants" -- code for Jews -- with "the blood of innocent babies" on their hands. He mobilizes hundreds of demonstrators to march through the Jewish neighborhood, chanting, "No justice, no peace." A rabbinical student, Yankel Rosenbaum, is surrounded by a mob shouting "Kill the Jews!" and stabbed to death.

1995: When the United House of Prayer, a large black landlord in Harlem, raises the rent on Freddy's Fashion Mart, Freddy's white Jewish owner is forced to raise the rent on his subtenant, a black-owned music store. A landlord-tenant dispute ensues; Sharpton uses it to incite racial hatred. "We will not stand by," he warns malignantly, "and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Sharpton's National Action Network sets up picket lines; customers going into Freddy's are spat on and cursed as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms." Some protesters shout, "Burn down the Jew store!" and simulate striking a match. "We're going to see that this cracker suffers," says Sharpton's colleague Morris Powell. On Dec. 8, one of the protesters bursts into Freddy's, shoots four employees point-blank, then sets the store on fire. Seven employees die in the inferno.

I do not endorse Shapton for nothing.

[hmxsgt]

1987: Sharpton spreads the incendiary Tawana Brawley hoax, insisting heatedly that a 15-year-old black girl was abducted, raped, and smeared with feces by a group of white men. He singles out Steve Pagones, a young prosecutor. Pagones is wholly innocent -- the crime never occurred -- but Sharpton taunts him: "If we're lying, sue us, so we can . . . prove you did it." Pagones does sue, and eventually wins a $345,000 verdict for defamation. To this day, Sharpton refuses to recant his unspeakable slander or to apologize for his role in the odious affair.


I do not endorse Shapton for nothing.


To add the 1987 incident Sharpton has not paid the $345,000 yet either.

And I never would believe you if you said you did endorse him.

I really don't believe he is held to those standards, I don't think this thing would have gone this way if he was. I think Imus would have payed for his statement, but I don't think the advertisers would have pulled out and I don't think he would have been fired. Al threatened as usual with his BS boycotts and so fourth. At the end of the day, people who drive GM's would still be driving GM's, but these companies for some reason are afraid of him. It's time there was some push back.

[innersanctum]

To add the 1987 incident Sharpton has not paid the $345,000 yet either.

And I never would believe you if you said you did endorse him.

I really don't believe he is held to those standards, I don't think this thing would have gone this way if he was. I think Imus would have payed for his statement, but I don't think the advertisers would have pulled out and I don't think he would have been fired. Al threatened as usual with his BS boycotts and so fourth. At the end of the day, people who drive GM's would still be driving GM's, but these companies for some reason are afraid of him. It's time there was some push back.

So it's not really a result of Sharpton but uninformed advertisers being afraid of what a fruitloop is spreading nationally? I wonder why the advertisers respect his opinion more than the average everyday citizen?

That's a debate for another day....why Madison Ave is afraid of black civil rights leaders.

[gunga55]

squeaky wheel gets the grease

[Cmongo]

i have heared a hell of alot worst on the radio, Imus suck anyways.

[gunga55]

I have to agree as a "shock jock" he kind of sucked

[mkennedy]

FYI: Just yesterday in the local news, the black comedian, Hughley (can't recall his first name) is causing a stir among members of the black community because he made negative comments about black women. They are calling for a boycott of his performance this weekend.

[ShooterDSH]

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